Breathless, normal… or something more

Being breathless has many causes… so many it is generally categorized as shortness of breath.

However, it can be the symptom of something much more sinister. Let me share my first brush with the dark side of being breathless.

Shortly after our marriage my husband had to take early retirement. He had been in and out of hospital in those first nine months we were married. I used to joke and say it was like a pregnancy. Not that it ended after the nine months, but by then we were used to it.

breathless and frustrated

Something that frustrated him greatly was the attitude of others, sometimes even hospital staff – “Oh it’s only asthma,” or worse, the people who thought he was malingering.

Well, ultimately that ‘malingering’ took his life… and that is what this ‘breathless’ blog is about.

My late husband was a great ‘case study’ for many training doctors. So many potential diagnoses were proffered, but still no definite statement saying – “This what is wrong with you…”

About twelve years before he died I remember how pleased he was when his lung specialist said that the condition was ‘Fibrosing Alveolitis’. Finally he had a name, a hook to hang his symptom on. Little did we know, and looking back it is just as well we didn’t know, that those words were a death sentence. Yes, that had been a reality for many years… severe asthma on top of pre-existing chronic lung disease. He was on ‘fast-lane’ ambulance priority – and there were interesting experiences of the ambulance driving the wrong way heading down an off-ramp onto the freeway… and short-cutting through business carparks.

Yes, I had done internet searches at the time,

… but could find nothing other than vague mention of interstitial lung disease (which meant nothing to us, and provided no information then either). So, yes, there was a ‘hook’ to hang the symptoms on, and the regular and sometimes frightening urgent admissions to hospital. There was nowhere to go with this information though.

Because we did not know the danger, or the risks, for the first time my beloved husband/best friend travelled overseas for the first time. He loved meeting our church brethren in the US, and had damp eyes when we flew out of the airport. As for my home town, Peebles in Scotland, he likened that to Brigadoon – although I assured him it was there every day. We had two more trips, scrimping and saving with our eyes on the goal!

Neither of us guessed in that last year we went, that he was suffering from anything other than the effects of a stubborn infection. In fact his lung specialist gave him two different types of antibiotics that he was to take if the ‘infection’ did not improve.

Cutting out a whole ‘lump’ of frightening experiences, bringing him home from that last overseas trip was … well, I don’t think there are words for it. Yet, there were many people who stepped in to help.

On our return to Perth, my husband went to hospital. He was on 15 litres (that’s fifteen not one point five,) of oxygen per minute. Then he needed more on walking to the ensuite bathroom in his hospital room. We remarked that he had never needed that much before, but still had no idea of what the next few weeks would bring. Without question we accepted that at home he would need two large oxygen converters hooked together to supply the oxygen he needed… and many other trappings of dying – without any sense of reality penetrating.

It was on his second admission that he worked out that he was dying – and it was confirmed when he asked his new respiratory consultant.

However, this post is not about a person – nor the experience – it is about a condition, a terminal condition. Possibly more terminal than the diagnosis of lung cancer. There is a lot of information available online now. I found it after my husband had died, and I was putting together a journal on his ‘last journeyings’.

Can you do something to help sufferers of Pulmonary Fibrosis (as it seems to be called now)?


  • If you are breathless and have any symptoms that worry you – check with your doctor. Ask for a referral to a Respiratory specialist.
  • Ask, and keep on asking – if you want to know. There are treatments today. A lot more information is known nowadays. There is help.
  • Don’t judge people you might think are ‘malingering’. They might be fighting a hard battle. Remember, you are not walking in their moccasins.
  • If you have a cold or ‘flu symptoms – please do not visit someone you know has a respiratory illness.
  • If you see an appeal for PF (or Pulmonary Fibrosing) please donate. A few coins in a tin, a larger donation, or find out about it and raise awareness… please donate.

Remember the last time you felt breathless!



I am not writing this on behalf of any organization, or making an official appeal. I am remembering the daily struggle my beloved husband went through. Being smothered by your lungs is not pleasant. (That’s what he was told was happening to him – when his new specialist decided to be honest with him.)

There are many ‘Cinderella’ causes. It seems this is one of them.


Did Jesus Keep a Seder Meal?

Seder plate

Was it a Seder meal Jesus kept on the night He was betrayed? Simple answer. No. 

This is what He said to His disciples as they gathered for the Passover meal.

“Then He said to them, “With fervent desire I have desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer;”
Luke 22: 14

So, there’s the first reason. Jesus said it was a Passover meal, and Jesus never lied.

Second reason…

There was no need for a Seder meal

The Seder meal replaced the Passover when it was no longer possible to sacrifice the Passover lambs. (Destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem 70AD)

When Jesus was about to be crucified the Passover was still being kept.

Some were keeping the 14th Passover and keeping it as commanded, others would keep it during the day part of the Passover, on the 15th and be part of the Temple Passover. (Remember the Hebrew day began at sunset on the day before.)

So, again, why do I say there was no need for a Seder meal?

While it was still possible for the Passover to be sacrificed, the Seder substitute was not necessary.

To be honest, it is hard to find a reference that does not amalgamate the two. But the Seder meal began after there was no Passover Lamb sacrifice. That’s why only a  lamb shank is on the Seder plate.

Jesus kept a Passover meal

That’s why He said it.

But it was in two parts. (Judas left to betray Christ after the Passover meal, and before the New Testament Passover.)

The Passover ended the First (Old Covenant). Remember my post about the significance of the Covenants?

A covenant could only be broken by the death of the person making the covenant. God had a covenant with Israel. The only way to have a New Covenant was for Jesus, God in the flesh, to die. And that’s the second part of the covenant.

The Passover meal and Jesus Covenant death, ended the Old Covenant and enabled the New Covenant to be in effect.

The bread and wine began the New Covenant. This New Covenant Passover is kept by many Christians today.

Some thoughts to  ponder  upon,



More info about the Seder plate:

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Seder plate arrangement

Why 30 pieces of silver?

30 pieces of silver blog

Jesus Christ was betrayed by Judas Iscariot for 30 pieces of silver. Why? This seems to be one of the most mysterious, and argued over points by theorists. Some say for money because he stole from the cash box that he had charge over. Others say because he was disappointed in that Jesus did not raise an army to drive the Romans out. In other words, Jesus did not meet his idea of the Saviour.

What about us?

Is Jesus our Saviour, or worth only 30 pieces of silver.

If we believe in Him, what value do we put on Him?


30 “pieces of silver” would be worth between $324 .60 present-day value (USD). Again, this depends on which silver coin was in use.

Judas’ bargain was made before the night of His betrayal

30 pieces of silver bargain
Bargaining for the price of betrayal

Some preachers say that this is why Jesus was enigmatic about the location of His last Passover.

All things had to be completed according to prophecy and if Judas had known the location the arrest could have taken place before the meal.


Part of four theories is this…

“During Jesus’ day, the people of Israel were under the rule of Rome. They desperately wanted to overthrow their oppressors and re-establish their nation. They needed an anointed king to lead them in this quest. Could it be Jesus? Clearly he was chosen by God. He performed miracles. He spoke with authority about a new kingdom. He attracted huge crowds.”

All four theories can be found here…

Why 30 pieces of silver?

At the time it was the price of a dead slave.

In Hebrew culture, thirty pieces of silver was not a lot of money. In fact, it was the exact price paid to the master of a slave if and when his slave was gored by an ox (Exodus 21:32). The slave’s death was compensated by the thirty pieces of silver.

Sobering thoughts about the value of the Saviour of mankind.



Passover facts-

Naaman, Commander of the Syrian army

Elisha refusing Naaman's gifts

Naaman was an important man. His story, and his healing from leprosy, can be found in 2 Kings 5, but if you want a simple overview you can read it here…

I won’t repeat it, just ask the question– why did Naaman ask for two mules loaded with dirt?

2 Kings 5 17 And Naaman said, Shall there not then, I pray thee, be given to thy servant two mules’ burden of earth? for thy servant will henceforth offer neither burnt offering nor sacrifice unto other gods, but unto the Lord.

Why did Naaman ask for soil?

There were many clues to answer this question discovered in my research for The Apostle John Series

Apostle John Series

(One I overtly used to is in the 4th book in The Apostle John Series, Keep the Flame)

Hint, hint

One of the many reasons the early Christians were hated by their pagan neighbours was their refusal to venerate any of the many ‘gods’ they worshipped. There were house gods, gods responsible for an area, for the beasts of the field and so on. One example is quoted here, “Local areas had local gods, with each city or region often having their own deities that they worshipped.” Just like the Egyptian ‘gods’ Roman and Greeks had similar beliefs.

I found many examples, but the above is a simple overview.

What was the significance of the soil?

If the gods of an area ruled that area, then they ruled the soil. In a different area another god ruled. This is why I brought out the significance of ‘gods’ only operating in their areas in book four of the series. (Keep the Flame)

Naaman is long gone…

But we can still learn lessons from his story, and be grateful that we do not live with these superstitions, because that is all they were. And yet, although I don’t practice them, I still remember many superstitions from my young years in Scotland. As Solomon says, ‘There is nothing new under the sun.”

God bless,


For further reading

Was Abraham a Jew

Abraham's descendants would be as stars

How could Abraham be a Jew when the tribe from which Jews were named had not yet been born? Many will be familiar with “Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.” Please read on…

Abraham was the father of Isaac; Isaac was the father of Jacob, and Jacob was the father of twelve sons. One of those sons was Judah, and it was from the tribe of Judah that the ‘nickname’ Jews came to be known.

Living in Ur of the Chaldees with his family. According to a now out of print book I have about his early life, Abraham worked in his father, Terah’s idol shop.

This is also mentioned in a Wikipedia article. “Terah, the ninth in descent from Noah, was the father of three sons: Abram, Nahor, and Haran. The entire family, including grandchildren, lived in Ur of the Chaldees. According to a midrash, Abram worked in Terah’s idol shop in his youth.”

How could Abraham be a member of a tribe not yet born?

Judah was Abraham’s descendent, not forebear.

“Judah (Hebrew: יְהוּדָה‎, Modern: Yəhudah, Tiberian: Yehuḏāḥ) was, according to the Book of Genesis, the fourth son of Jacob and Leah, the founder of the Israelite Tribe of Judah. By extension, he is indirectly eponymous of the Kingdom of Judah, the land of Judea and the word Jew.”

Covenants with God

A covenant is more than just an agreement, or it was back then. Here are some examples…

  • Noahide Covenant,
  • Abrahamic Covenant,
  • Mosaic Covenant,
  • Davidic Covenant

Rather than being a victim of cancel culture, Abraham was an important man who had a very special relationship with God, and is claimed by the Jews, the Christians, and those of the Moslem faith. (After all, Abraham was the father of Ishmael too.)

Just some thoughts

God bless


Piracy comes in many guises

Piracy at sea and other kinds

What do you think of when you hear the word piracy? Movies like Pirates of the Caribbean? Old-fashioned swashbuckling tales? Pirates on the ‘high seas’ still exist. I watched an eye-opening movie recently called Captain Phillips. Few of us, we hope, would be in such a position. But many other forms of piracy abound.

Piracy is also theft from…

  • Authors,
  • Music artists,
  • Software developers, to name but a few.

How often do you worry about your paycheck getting stolen? Probably not too often, because we have strong laws that deter and punish theft of money, banking systems in place to protect you and track down the thief, and law enforcement that will step in to help.”

Digital piracy

intellectual rights piracy

The victims of this kind of piracy don’t have this security and the small amount of royalties goes into the hands of the companies who do the pirating, or the pirates themselves.

  • Software piracy.
    Software piracy is the act of stealing software that is legally protected. This stealing includes copying, distributing, modifying or selling the software.
    One example…
    Hard disk loading is a type of commercial software piracy in which someone buys a legal version of the software and then reproduces, copies or installs it onto computer hard disks. The person then sells the product. This often happens at PC resale shops and buyers aren’t always aware that the additional software they are buying is illegal.
    See the last sentence – you could be a software pirate and not know it.
  • Music piracy.
    Music piracy is the copying and distributing of recordings of a piece of music for which the rights owners (composer, recording artist, or copyright-holding record company) did not give consent.
    By the way… there are many people who pirate movies too.
  • Piracy from authors.
    There are increasing numbers of sites selling pirate copies of eBooks. Most times the author doesn’t know, but even if they do there is little can be done. Book piracy is one of the issues I have written about before, but it seems to be thriving… especially during the Covid-19 lockdown.

EBook piracy

Authors don’t have this security when their royalties are siphoned off by e-book pirates.

And that is what started me on this subject. I have a Google Alert for all my books and regularly a pirate site tries to sell a copy of Hold the Faith, the first book in the Apostle John Series. Whatever site is advertising a free copy of my book, they all lead to the same sign up page. Yes, and not only sign up, but Credit Card details. The reason discussed is to make sure that it’s not a ‘bot.’ Well, other sites use various forms of Captcha software. I usually click the link to get to the page, but don’t go any further.

This week two pirate sites were caught in the net.

My concern, and why I am writing this, is that one of them went through several redirects. (I watched the address bar) It ended up at a page where a large notice almost covered an naked person. The notice warned that naked images would be shown if you clicked to go further.

Perhaps the site owners think that if you want to steal books, you might want a little porn thrown in. There is nothing I can do about this, which is why I am warning my blog readers. Beware.

Piracy can be phishing


I have written of this before, see Piracy Three Ways, and my opinion has not changed. There is no justification for stealing, but many people do not see the kind of piracy mentioned in the list as being theft. However, it is.

It is often said, “Well the company can afford it.” May I point out that it is not the company who loses most, it is the musician, or author, or software developer. All have labored long and hard to produce what they are endeavouring to sell.

Update, More pirating

Since I wrote this a couple of weeks ago I ended up in hospital with what the doctors called a ‘small’ heart attack. My oxygen level went dangerously low and the heart attack was the result. Since my discharge, in the few days this week more pirate sites sailed into my net.

The eBook version of Hold the Faith is only $2.99 on Amazon , Apple and other leading eBook sellers. Much better than entering your credit card details in a database based in the Eastern European block. (One of the links forgot to disguise the URL.) If the one offered has red on the cover, it is the ‘old version,’ and has since been updated. It should look like this…

Buyer beware, especially now when there is so much theft.

Since I wrote this a couple of weeks ago I ended up in hospital with what the doctors called a ‘small’ heart attack. My oxygen level went dangerously low and the heart attack was the result. Since my discharge, in the few days this week more pirate sites sailed into my net.

Hoping for a healthier week,

God bless you


Something else I noticed had increased… author scams.
I receive many emails from ‘companies’ saying that my book fits their criteria for publishing/has been re-assessed and they would like to publish it.

Since I haven’t submitted it (them. I have more than one book, plus the novellas) anywhere, that’s a bit clue that something is awry. Authors beware, it’s your money they are after!

Fraud alert

Is Judaism the Law of Moses?

Judaism ritual handwashing

For the most part, Judaism is seen as being the Law of Moses, but is it? For the last few months I have been doing an ‘in-depth’ study as background for the next series of Biblical fiction novels. Basically, my curiosity was triggered by Jesus’ various confrontations with the Pharisees (or Sadducees, scribes and priests.) Since Jesus said ‘not one jot or tittle of the law would pass away’ until or unless heaven and earth pass away – why did He accuse the religious officials the way He did?

Well, my ‘researcher’ mind went into gear and I have done a long study. 

In the Code of Jewish Law, Volume 1 are contained the rules for ‘conduct before rising in the morning.’ Chapter 2 of Volume 1 is about washing hands in the morning. One reason given is that ‘when a man is asleep, the holy soul departs from his body, and an unclean spirit descends upon him. When rising from, sleep the unclean spirit departs from his entire body, except for his fingers, and does not depart until one spills water upon them three times alternately.’

There is another ritual for washing hands correctly.

What is Judaism

Although an Internet search will tell you it was the religion given to Abraham, there is more to it.

“During the Babylonian captivity of the 6th and 5th centuries BCE (Iron Age II), certain circles within the exiled Judahites in Babylon refined pre-existing ideas about their Yahweh-centric monolatrism, election, divine law and Covenant into a strict monotheistic theology which came to dominate the former Kingdom of Judah in the following centuries.

From the 5th century BCE until 70 CE, Israelite religion developed into the various theological schools of Second Temple Judaism, besides Hellenistic Judaism in the diaspora. Second Temple eschatology have similarities with Zoroastrianism. .The text of the Hebrew Bible was redacted into its extant form in this period and possibly also canonized as well.”

Judaism, Tanakh scroll

Rabbinic Judaism developed during Late Antiquity, during the 3rd to 6th centuries CE; the Masoretic Text of the Hebrew Bible and the Talmud were compiled in this period. The oldest manuscripts of the Masoretic tradition come from the 10th and 11th centuries CE; in the form of the Aleppo Codex of the later portions of the 10th century CE and the Leningrad Codex dated to 1008–1009 CE. Due largely to censoring and the burning of manuscripts in medieval Europe the oldest existing manuscripts of various rabbinical works are quite late. The oldest surviving complete manuscript copy of the Babylonian Talmud is dated to 1342 CE.”

Note: ‘refined pre-existing ideas.’
            5th century BCE until 70 CE (covers the time of Christ)

            The rest of the text quoted came after the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 AD

And there is more

“The history of Rabbinic Judaism is closely linked to the rabbinic tradition, which dates back to the time of Alexander the Great with the siege of Tyre (332 BC). The formation of the outlook of the Jews which led to the formation of their religion began in the second millennium BC in Canaan.

Rabbinic tradition holds that the details and interpretation of the Torah (Written Law), which are called the Oral Torah or oral law, were originally an unwritten tradition based upon what God told Moses on Mount Sinai. However, as the persecutions of the Jews increased and the details were in danger of being forgotten, these oral laws were recorded by rabbi Judah ha-Nasi (“Judah the Prince”) in the Mishnah, redacted circa 200 CE.”

Could this be why Jesus said “And He answered and said to them, “Why do you yourselves transgress the commandment of God for the sake of your tradition?”
Matthew 15:3

He knew God’s law, they had the law fenced in by their traditions.


Concluding, for now

This is merely scratching the surface of what researching many sources has turned up, but it has given me a whole new understanding of not only the gospels, but also the seeming contradictions in the writing of the Apostle Paul.

As mentioned in a previous post, it is our choice what we believe. However, we need to find the facts. <smile> 
It Started Way Back in Eden.

God bless and encourage you


Wise Men

Wise men

Wise men, kings, Magi? Who were they, where did they come from, and when did they visit Jesus?

Lots of questions, and some theories from research.

So, were they kings or wise men?

According to “The Magi are popularly referred to as wise men and kings.”

Who were they and where did they come from can be taken as one question… in my mind anyway. Although there are many theories of where they came from, I favour this one.

“The Bible states that they were from “the East,” which would be in the direction of Babylon and ancient Persia. Of all the peoples of “the East,” the Babylonians had many opportunities to learn of the Jewish Scriptures, which contain multiple promises of the coming Messiah. Daniel was an influential government official in Babylon about 600 years earlier, and he foretold the coming of the Messiah (Daniel 9:24–26). Also, tens of thousands of Jews lived in Babylon during the time of the Exile (605–536 BC), and they maintained a large presence there for the following centuries.”

The Magi were ‘wise men.’

It says in the quote above that tens of thousands of Jews lived in Babylon…. And they maintained a large presence there for the following centuries.


So many centuries that it is mentioned that the Apostle Peter went to Babylon.

 “The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you; and so doth Marcus my son.” 
1 Peter 5:13, KJV

This raises a number of issues and many theories, most of which I have studied, but this is not the purpose of this post. Let’s just take it at its word.

This next quote explains ‘magi.’ 

The word magi is the plural of Latin magus, borrowed from Greek μάγος (magos), as used in the original Greek text of the Gospel of Matthew (in the plural: μάγοι, magoi). Greek magos itself is derived from Old Persian maguŝ from the Avestan magâunô, i.e., the religious caste into which Zoroaster was born (see Yasna 33.7: “ýâ sruyê parê magâunô” = “so I can be heard beyond Magi”). The term refers to the Persian priestly caste of Zoroastrianism. As part of their religion, these priests paid particular attention to the stars and gained an international reputation for astrology, which was at that time highly regarded as a science. Their religious practices and use of astrology caused derivatives of the term Magi to be applied to the occult in general and led to the English term magic. The King James Version translates the term as wise men; the same translation is applied to the wise men led by Daniel of earlier Hebrew Scriptures (Daniel 2:48).

When did the wise men (Magi) visit Jesus?

The traditional view presented in films, such as The Nativity Story, is that the wise men saw Jesus on the night of His birth, but this is highly unlikely. Matthew 2:1 reveals that the magi came to Jerusalem and subsequently visited with Herod after Jesus had been born.

It is highly implausible that the wise men would arrive in Jerusalem at night and immediately obtain an audience with Herod. The king then gathered “all the chief priests and scribes of the people” (Matthew 2:4) so he could determine where the Messiah was to be born. The experts told Herod that the Messiah needed to be born in Bethlehem, which was predicted in Micah 5:2. So, the wise men departed and made their approximately six-mile journey to Bethlehem.

Continuing from another source…

After coming into the house they saw the Child with Mary His mother; and they fell to the ground and worshiped Him. Then, opening their treasures, they presented to Him gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Matthew 2:11 (NASB)

Verse 11 states that Jesus was living in a house. This reveals that Jesus’ parents had moved to a house. Contrary to popular nativity scenes and paintings, Christ was now living in a house when the magi visited Him. His parents had moved from the location of the manger to this house. There were no shepherds or angels when the magi stopped to worship Him and give Him gifts.

See previous post…
Traditional Nativity Scenes Are Often Wrong

The Slaughter of the Innocents

King Herod ordered the execution of all male children under two years old.

slaughter of innocents
Duccio di Buoninsegna, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons


Much of this post is comprised of quotes from other sources. They are to demonstrate that these are not wild theories of mine. Just food for thought for you to explore and make up your own mind.

God bless,


Traditional Nativity Scenes Are Often Wrong

Nativity scene often wrong

Why is the traditional Nativity Scene wrong? Because if it is pictured like the one in the featured image the wrong people are there.


Yes, really.


Please read on.

Before the Nativity Scene

First comes the account of the birth of Christ, described in detail by Luke in the account he wrote under the inspiration of God.

Luke 2: 2, 3: “(This registration first occurred when Quirinius was governor of Syria.) Then all went to be registered, each to his own city” 

Joseph was of the line of David, who was born in Bethlehem,

Joseph and Mary were living down in the area of Galilee.

Luke 2:4 – 9  “And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judea, to the City of David, which is called Bethlehem, because he was from the house and lineage of David to register himself along with Mary, who was betrothed to him as wife, and was great with child. And it came to pass that during the time they were there, the days were fulfilled for her to give birth” And she gave birth to her Son, the firstborn, and wrapped Him in swaddling clothes, and laid Him in a manger, because there was no place for them in the inn. Now there were shepherds in the same country, who were dwelling in the fields and keeping watch over their flock by night and keeping watch over their flock by night, and suddenly an angel of the Lord stood by them, and the glory of the Lord shined round about them; and they were seized with great fear”

The time of the birth/nativity scene

Mary and Joseph  were in Bethlehem when Jesus was born because it was prophesied that He would be born there.

No place at the inn, Was it an Inn?

They were in a stable. A little later they were in a house.

The angel announced the birth to the shepherds.

Luke 2: 10: “But the angel said to them, ‘Do not be afraid; for behold, I am announcing to you glad tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. ‘For today, in the city of David, a Savior was born to you, Who is Christ the Lord. Now, this is the sign for you: you shall find a Babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.’ And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, ‘Glory to God in the highest, and peace on earth among men of goodwill.’ And it came to pass, as the angels were departing from them into heaven, that the shepherds said to one another, ‘Let us go now as far as Bethlehem, and let us see this thing that has taken place, which the Lord has made known to us'” (vs 11-15).

Angel announces birth of Christ to shepherd
Rembrandt, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons

Luke 2: 16: “And they made haste, and came and found both Mary and Joseph, and the Babe lying in the manger. Now after seeing Him, they made known everywhere the proclamation that they had been told concerning this little Child. And all those who heard were filled with wonder by the things that were spoken to them by the shepherds.”

After the birth

Then the Magi, (often called the ‘wise men,’ or ‘three kings’) visited Herod looking for this child who had been born king. After all, Herod was the king at the time.

Now to Matthew’s account…

Matthew 2: 7 – 9: “Then Herod secretly called for the Magi and ascertained from them the exact time of the appearing of the star….And he sent them to Bethlehem, saying, ‘Go and search diligently for the little Child; and when you have found Him, bring word back to me, so that I also may go and worship Him. And after hearing the king, they departed; and behold, the star that they had seen in the east went in front of them, until it came and stood over the house where the little Child was. And after seeing the star, they rejoiced with exceedingly great joy. And when they had come into the house, they found the little Child with Mary His mother…”

This time they were in a house. Note, it also said they found the Child (not baby) with Mary, His mother.

So, it does not seem from these accounts that the Magi came to the stable at the time of the birth.

To me, point proven. Other than Mary and Joseph, only the shepherd boys witnessed the newborn Christ. Most nativity scenes, however attractive, are wrong, and of all the images I looked at the only one where the shepherds are not replaced by the Magi, who were still travelling,  is the Rembrandt one. (Above)

Just thinking